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J.J. McCullough's avatar

It seems to me that most “civic organizations” have a number of unavoidably unattractive qualities, including cliquey decision-making, lots of long, boring meetings, and a generally small-c conservative mindset (in the sense of, low openness to new ideas). I’m not sure if there’s an obvious way to fix these characteristics, or if they’re even inherently bad. But a lot of people who join new organizations or clubs want those clubs to feel fresh and dynamic, and without feeling some degree of excitement, or hope upon joining, it’s hard for new people to want to stay involved.

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Amir Missaghi's avatar

Mirrors my own attempts in Minnesota; applied and got on the local human rights commission (but the commission had no power or authority to do anything except hold meetings), joined a city working group to set a master plan for a district (just a dog and pony show because the city staff already had consultants lined up who had a plan), tried to join the PTO (people just wanted to pretend everything was great even though the kids are illiterate), engaged with the schools (admins just want to keep the status quo despite budget deficits and low literacy). At this point, I get why people buy into the “run government like a business” messaging. At least with a business you tend have hierarchical decision makers and some accountability (bankruptcy or job loss).

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