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With regard to Ukraine, it's amazing how much the post-left wields the rhetoric of reaction so astutely identified by Albert Hirschman. It's not so much left-wing as it is simply deeply pessimistic and defeatist.

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Moyn’s argument seems like a kind of teleology by selective contextualization. He arbitrarily assigns motive to the western coalition supporting Ukraine (“defend our flawed democracies as they are”) then selectively contextualizes it as yet another instance of Cold War liberal hypocrisies (as opposed to something probably more apt, like a popular front against imperialist aggression) to make his case. But he’s rigged the game from the start by working backward from possible outcome (defending flawed democracies) to manufacturing prior motive and purpose.

Of course there’s nothing new in any of this. As long as there has been authoritarian aggression, there have been big picture system thinkers who come up with clever reasons to dismiss or minimize the aggression as tangential to the “real” system-level struggle. Fortunately, they are outnumbered by people who do take immediate problems of existential aggression seriously. Endless and superfluous reminders of western hypocrisy and neoliberal failures does not constitute a moral position on the justness of a war of self-defence - at best it’s just a banal and obvious analytical exercise, and at worst it’s just a mirror image of the sanctimonious grandstanding that Moyn is denouncing. Either way, it’s a pretty sure bet that the Ukrainians are utterly indifferent to it.

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