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Jimmy Business's avatar

I think the "attack on liberalism" framing you mention here (and you made a similar point re fascism in your interview with the American Jewish Historical Society) is absolutely right. “Liberalism” having two senses in American can be frustrating, but here the right is attacking both: the libs (anyone left-of-centre) are hounded as woke, and the boundaries of liberalism (the philosophy—rule of law etc.) are being wrestled with.

Examples of the latter are obvious—DOGE, the executive orders, threatening tariffs that have no statutory basis. They are often throwing away Liberalism specifically to attack the libs (DOGE, USAID, “fraud”).

Liberal principles are pretty dry stuff, and particularly in the States, involve respecting a lot of dumb concepts (congress/presidential system is in fact very bad). But anti-Liberal/lib procedural radicalism by a personalist leader with a popular base gives off a very specific vibe.

Obviously hypocrisy doesn’t mean much these days. And I guess I shouldn’t be shocked. But it is bizarre that, less than a decade after blathering on about Obama’s imperial presidency, congresses role, etc., Republicans are supporting the executive flouting legislation in the most flagrant ways imaginable.

I think the courts, and Trump’s response to them, are going to be extremely important to watch. The conservative legal movement has always had a bizarre relationship with the executive—it should be unfettered to do bad things (torture memo, Trump case) but as fettered as possible in doing good things. The movement won a big fight in its campaign to against the latter when it overturned Chevron deference. It’s possible that them doing so sowed a problem for Trump—the executive actions, tariffs, etc. require massive deference. There’s tension between “deconstructing the administrative state” and Trumpy governance through that state.

Now, maybe the courts are too wimpy to apply that principle neutrally when Trump’s involved. But even if you’re cynical about the Supreme Court, one version of that cynicism is they’re cozy with capital interests, and I could certainly see them striking down actions that harm those interests (e.g., tariffs). What would Trump do then? I am not sure. The Fascism thesis predicts something quite bad. And he seems to have more hatchet men on hand this go-round who will take action even when Trump himself is too lazy. At the very least, it’s hard to use judicial review to make the executive follow through on legislation in good faith.

Regrettably, this shades into criticisms levelled by the cringest/nastiest anti-trumpers. But there appears to be a genuine constitutional crisis budding, and at that point one has to say that they got some wood on the ball.

Would also say that Storr’s characterization of government soc-dems describes the goated politics, and it makes me very sad to see it under assault :(

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John mnemonic's avatar

I’m no expert on the Red Scare in any respect but I am struck by the way that DOGE is using the language of kitchen table issues (“waste, fraud, and abuse…”) and supposed common sense to downplay how its core goals ultimately feel much more vindictive and based in attacks on particular identities (immigrants, trans folks, pretty much any religious minority).

Similarly, I feel like when I was taught the Mcarthy era in school the emphasis was always on the anticommunist over reach and never, ever emphasized the lavender scare or how anti-Asian animus pre-Korean War played into it, or why it might be worth taking a look at what it meant for the government to fry the Rosenbergs basically within the same time period that the Doctors plot conspiracy is popping off in the Soviet Union.

In short, The Red Scare feels like it has become a piece of post-cold war kitsch filled with mediated meaning and constructed truisms over the decades (see also the top comment on John’s last post discussing how 1984 has set a false precedent for how to recognize totalitarianism/facism in the present)

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