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sjellic2's avatar

As both a Ganz head and a Silver head, I want to offer a partial defense of polling nerdery.

What it CAN tell you is that the whole thing comes down to 7 out of the 50 states (with maybe a couple more on the outer margin on either side, but very unlikely), that the margins in those states will be relatively small, and underratedly that this state of play has been very very stable since Harris entered the race (and improved markedly on Biden's standing).

That's not an answer of who is going to win (though in, say, 2008 the same information absolutely was that answer), but it puts boundaries around the conversation and narrows the focus of what we're talking about.

I think the extent to which that represents an improvement on the Cilizza-core fanciful bullshit that made up election punditry before the nerds arrived is underappreciated. Kamala as LBJ, Trump's gonna win New York, Black voters are Republicans now, totally innumerate nonsense used to get taken seriously.

Two cheers for Nate Silver.

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dysphemistic treadmill's avatar

We don't know what's going to happen.

But I hope to be in DC some time in January for a big march, whether in celebration or in defiance. I was at the Women's March in 2017, and it made a big difference, not only to my own resolve and courage, but also to setting the tone for Trump's first reign. The second reign will doubtless be worse, if it happens. But we are not entirely passive actors. We can speak, we can vote, we can agitate, and we can march. Marching is not a substitute for more effective political actions, but mass protest has its place in the toolbox.

(And I say all of this while setting aside the lamentable fate of the "Women's March" as a name-brand movement, which died of its own excesses. Too bad that the leaders turned out to be a mess. The march itself was grand, and it made a difference.)

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