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Jimmy Business's avatar

Max Read had a Gawker/Intercept guy on his podcast recently, and they discussed the Khalil kidnapping. The guest was being epic, and talking about how he didn't care about the procedural violations when the substantive conduct was bad (and indeed, complaining about process was bad, because it took the focus away from substantively bad decisions).

As you say here, though, they're fundamentally linked. It's not just abstract rule-of-law concerns. The procedural violations are what allow them to interfere with substantive rights. The two won't always dovetail, but here they do.

They're employing a particular, and very concerning, tactic here and with DOGE (I recommend the recent ALAB episode on that), which is to act in blatantly legal ways but work the process such that it's not practically justiciable even if under court supervision. There's a something of a tech/hacker ethos to it, like Uber running unlicensed cabs. In an administration filled with dumbies, they have some canny, amoral operators working on this stuff.

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There is the harm done to those people deprived of any due process. There is the implied harm done to all of the rest of us citizens whose rights to due process have been extremely fragile if not moot.

And then there is another harm––not as profound, but I'm feeling it keenly. It's the shame of being part of a polity that does grotesque, horrific shit like this. It's my country that makes obscene videos like the Noem stunt in El Salvador and sends it around the world. Her face is our face.

I was never 100% persuaded by Richard Rorty's argument that the left needed to cultivate affirmative national narratives in addition to critiques. But I think he was right that nations, like individuals, require a base-line of self-respect if they are going to have the collective wherewithal to make progressive change.

Even for those of us who oppose and resist it, this is a shared degradation. It feels bitter and humiliating.

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