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Adam Gurri's avatar

I suppose the only difference between "fascist" and "liberal," "socialist," or "conservative" is that few, if any, these days self-apply the label. But ultimately all these labels end up muddled through broad usage and the narrow particularities of who is on what side of a contemporary issue, sides which may not cleanly or obviously map to any one of the broader political tradition.

But you can always step back as a scholar and say "there is a fascist, a liberal, a socialist, and a conservative political tradition," and describe what you think characterizes one as distinct from the other, and justify your use of the term with historical use of it. Even if someone objects to the term you use, the only thing that really matters is whether they think the political tradition itself is a thing that more or less merits treating as something distinct, a pattern that in fact meaningfully exists in history and the present.

What's frustrating about the fascism debate is how hung up people seem to get on the aesthetics of the word without really bothering to face whether or not there is or is not some political tradition or pattern worth wrestling with. I don't care one whit whether or not we ought to call MAGA fascism, but I do find the patterns that you have drawn from history to be useful. Totally agree that the energy behind this from some academics is all about a snobby "real intellectuals don't go around calling things fascist" rather than anything more substantial.

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Failure to Launch's avatar

Moyn once tweeted that he was reluctant to call it fascism because he disliked the political and intellectual consequences of such identification. What unifies much of of the "non-fascist" camp is a deep antagonism towards American liberalism for one reason or another. If Trump and the far-right were identified as fascist it would create political obligations towards a popular front that would imperil the political projects of these intellectuals. I don't think its a coincidence that many of those who oppose identifying fascists on the right are also those who nurse the strongest hopes for a new "dovish" right wing who might help create a new, more restrained American foreign policy.

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