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Ed Burmila's avatar

Liberalism has reached the crisis point we have seen coming for 30 years; everyone can see that "The rules! The institutions! The norms!" is no longer a battle cry that an effective coalition can be rallied behind, and in its place they seem to be completely at a loss to offer an alternative.

They don't remember how to do materialism (Why should they? It's been decades!) and they have never understood vision, politics-as-emotions, narrative, or having a story other than "The system works, provided smart people like us are in charge of it."

They seem utterly shocked that "He's not following the rules!" isn't working and I fear that it's going to take quite some time before they can admit that they need a different message *and* find one that works. We are entering a tunnel and the exit isn't visible yet.

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David Gentile's avatar

Great post, and I think the main thrust of your point is dead on. That being said, I would reject the wholesale characterization of Russiagate as a Liberal myth, for two reasons.

Firstly, as to the question of how mythical a conception it is, while there unquestionably was a certain hysteria running through Liberal circles about the topic (pee tape, etc), at the same time there actually is a tremendous amount of factual basis to many of the core claims, as made ultimately clear in the Senate Intel report and the Mueller report. Again, that's not to say that *no* myth making and general nonsense production occurred around the topic during the first half of Trump's first term, as obviously there are a million hysterical ResistLib tweets to point too, but much the same way that the truth is on our side about the question of oligarchs stripping the country for parts, so too is the truth on our side about, e.g. Paul Manafort being a corrupt toady taking money from Russian oligarchs, WikiLeaks publishing Clinton campagin emails which were stolen by outfits associated with Russian intelligence, among many other factual matters from that case.

Second reason: the mythical aspect of Russiagate that lives on in our common memory is I think at this point much more of a rightwing construction, and more of a prelude to Stop the Steal, of a righteous agent of the people unjustly persecuted by The Deep State, and to bring this back to the actual idea behind your post, I think the fact that Liberals so quickly ceded this as a topic and allowed to become an object of rightwing myth-making rather than refine it themselves, and as you suggest make it a more wieldy cudgel with which to hammer Trump et al is itself indicative of our general failure and doesn't bode well for our ability to craft compelling stories in the same way that the right does.

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