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Ben Piggot's avatar

This is really good. I've been saying to others since 2017 or so that Trump's moral universe is both pre-modern and that of a mob boss. More vaguely, I've always felt his vibe is very much that of Mid-Atlantic suburban (ethnic) conservatism, which I suppose has more than some overlap with the kind of people who were in or close to the mafia in the 1970s and 1980s. Like I get it might be a horrible stereotype, but the people in Goodfellas (and not just the made men and their violent accomplices) always seemed to me like Trump's base. Maybe not surprising Giuliani has become one of his most deranged supporters (ironically Giuliani was an anti-mafia crusader during the 1980s - I think he features prominently as a talking head in the Netflix doc "Get Gotti")

What is more interesting is the degree to which Trump has succeeded in getting (evangelical) Protestant small town America to totally buy into this ethic. Like I didn't necessarily see the world of Goodfellas (politically) conquering the world of America Gothic at all. A lot more to explore there.

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Stephen Falbel's avatar

Unfortunately the inchoate anger that led so many to vote for Trump, in order to give the middle finger to "the system," doesn't allow them to see that the alternative to the "the system" would in all likelihood make them much worse off. Of course the American system is unfair to less affluent people and is trending toward oligarchy, but Trump would only accelerate that trend or just lead to anarchy and a Hobbesian nightmare. Why short-sighted billionaires can't see that they, too, would be worse off if the system devolves is beyond me.

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