I met her in DC when she was around 22/23; she had a face like a snowshovel and was wearing pearls and a white dress shirt with the collar flipped up like a parody of a wealthy housewife. I got the impression that she dated older men because men her age found her alien if not outright repugnant. If Hilary had won in 2016, she be married to a Jetski salesman and live in Hagerstown, MD.
I'll top the comment: the worst part of all this is how it serves as an invitation for randos to indulge in a little misogyny as a treat. This "LOL she's ugly" shit is gross, regardless of the target, and both your evident glee in participating makes my skin crawl. Feel free to taunt me in reply: I know you know I'm right.
it is a gross misunderstanding of the world to think that Nuzzi would not enjoy similar success in a world without Trump. the structures that produce Nuzzi types far predate her and will persist beyond her, and there is no shortage of powerful men on either side of the aisle willing to exchange sex - or the possibility of sex - for access.
and men her age would absolutely fuck her! she’s an attractive woman! idiotic.
A friend of mine posted some excerpts from Nuzzi's Vanity Fair article on their Facebook page. To say the prose was incredibly bad is an understatement. Pretentious, bombastic, overwrought--I've seen better writing in dime store bodice-ripper romances. Hard and sad to think that Nuzzi is being paid (well) for this slop. Not funny at all just further evidence of our decline.
Kind of mirrors my own reaction. Getting high on yourself for having an emotional affair with RFK Jr. is kind of like taking in the stench of a Camelot chamber pot and thinking it’s glamorous.
Maybe some value can be scavenged from this debacle by a turn to abstraction: particular temperaments aside, I wonder what general rule we ought to have about the ethics of attention. It's a theme that's increasingly popular, I think, with attention a currency we become increasingly conscious of expending, and one sometimes puritanical, as when some insist we should not consume good art by bad people lest (implicitly) we become bad, as if through sympathetic magic.
It seems easy to say "material support is forbidden": don't buy the stupid book. Maybe even "don't give them clicks": at most, roll one's eyes at screenshots. It's more difficult to say how we should, say, safeguard ourselves from being numbed to the depravity and corruption on display here. Would the goal be to maintain our capacity for righteous indignation, to stay clear-eyed about how dissolute our ostensible elite have become? In what sense does paying attention to the wrong things taint us somehow, and what argument can be made that would not collapse into the vulgar puritanism mentioned above?
I'm going to sound stupidly moralistic, but can fame and rising fortune really make up for being a hack ? There's an hollowness in this that I hope for her she doesn't see. I'd never heard about these stories and seeing as they are indeed a bit more sordid than funny, I'll happily let them fade into oblivion as far as I'm concerned, besides this column and its enjoyable writing. Still wondering what on earth is going on at Vanity Fair and why they'd hire someone with this background, but upon closer look perhaps it's actually quite apt. Thackeray would be proud, I suppose.
Its all part and parcel of the transition of the media to gossip/entertainment and politics to spectacle.
This is a core component of the Hungarification (or Russianification) of our media. In an autocracy, the media is more for distraction than information and this is a really sold example of how that actually plays out imo.
This is the first I’m learning of this person, but I want to add that she certainly seems like the type Dante would have “met” somewhere in inferno, perhaps amongst the chained men ramming into each other.
She's always been a superficial airheaded bimbo. And her "writing" has always been shit, like 98% of what else gets published back there among the idiots convinced they're geniuses. But what else do you expect from the overblown world of New Yawk "litterairy intellectshoouls"? That whole scene has been overrated since it was dominated by Fennimore Cooper, who was properly eviscerated by Mark Twain in "Fennimore Cooper's Literary Offenses." (Trust me, as one who was once forced to read Cooper, he really is the Worst American Writer Ever.)
I met her in DC when she was around 22/23; she had a face like a snowshovel and was wearing pearls and a white dress shirt with the collar flipped up like a parody of a wealthy housewife. I got the impression that she dated older men because men her age found her alien if not outright repugnant. If Hilary had won in 2016, she be married to a Jetski salesman and live in Hagerstown, MD.
That comment is hard to top! Let me try. She'll lose her fuckability soon enough, and thus her career.
I'll top the comment: the worst part of all this is how it serves as an invitation for randos to indulge in a little misogyny as a treat. This "LOL she's ugly" shit is gross, regardless of the target, and both your evident glee in participating makes my skin crawl. Feel free to taunt me in reply: I know you know I'm right.
What did Hagerstown do to you?
it is a gross misunderstanding of the world to think that Nuzzi would not enjoy similar success in a world without Trump. the structures that produce Nuzzi types far predate her and will persist beyond her, and there is no shortage of powerful men on either side of the aisle willing to exchange sex - or the possibility of sex - for access.
and men her age would absolutely fuck her! she’s an attractive woman! idiotic.
Time for the essay collection John.
A friend of mine posted some excerpts from Nuzzi's Vanity Fair article on their Facebook page. To say the prose was incredibly bad is an understatement. Pretentious, bombastic, overwrought--I've seen better writing in dime store bodice-ripper romances. Hard and sad to think that Nuzzi is being paid (well) for this slop. Not funny at all just further evidence of our decline.
The death of the fourth estate is happening as cringily as possible
Kind of mirrors my own reaction. Getting high on yourself for having an emotional affair with RFK Jr. is kind of like taking in the stench of a Camelot chamber pot and thinking it’s glamorous.
Maybe some value can be scavenged from this debacle by a turn to abstraction: particular temperaments aside, I wonder what general rule we ought to have about the ethics of attention. It's a theme that's increasingly popular, I think, with attention a currency we become increasingly conscious of expending, and one sometimes puritanical, as when some insist we should not consume good art by bad people lest (implicitly) we become bad, as if through sympathetic magic.
It seems easy to say "material support is forbidden": don't buy the stupid book. Maybe even "don't give them clicks": at most, roll one's eyes at screenshots. It's more difficult to say how we should, say, safeguard ourselves from being numbed to the depravity and corruption on display here. Would the goal be to maintain our capacity for righteous indignation, to stay clear-eyed about how dissolute our ostensible elite have become? In what sense does paying attention to the wrong things taint us somehow, and what argument can be made that would not collapse into the vulgar puritanism mentioned above?
I'm going to sound stupidly moralistic, but can fame and rising fortune really make up for being a hack ? There's an hollowness in this that I hope for her she doesn't see. I'd never heard about these stories and seeing as they are indeed a bit more sordid than funny, I'll happily let them fade into oblivion as far as I'm concerned, besides this column and its enjoyable writing. Still wondering what on earth is going on at Vanity Fair and why they'd hire someone with this background, but upon closer look perhaps it's actually quite apt. Thackeray would be proud, I suppose.
> When are we gonna stop indulging this?
Remember when Jon Stewart ended Tucker Carlson's career in 2004?
The immunity to shame is so prevalent it's going to take someone extreme like a Savonarola to pull the pendulum back.
But, as dark humor, what he said. https://open.substack.com/pub/danieldrezner/p/no-reason-this-cant-be-fun-you-know?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email.
Its all part and parcel of the transition of the media to gossip/entertainment and politics to spectacle.
This is a core component of the Hungarification (or Russianification) of our media. In an autocracy, the media is more for distraction than information and this is a really sold example of how that actually plays out imo.
This is the first I’m learning of this person, but I want to add that she certainly seems like the type Dante would have “met” somewhere in inferno, perhaps amongst the chained men ramming into each other.
I'm glad we're allowed to not find this funny. It hammers at your soul after awhile to see bad morals and bad aesthetics being given so much oxygen.
H/t for the Rigoletto reference. It's especially apt here since all of the major players are clowns.
This is such a good time to be a left-wing moralist. Every day furnishes pleasurable indignation.
Best take on this I have read. Thanks!
She's always been a superficial airheaded bimbo. And her "writing" has always been shit, like 98% of what else gets published back there among the idiots convinced they're geniuses. But what else do you expect from the overblown world of New Yawk "litterairy intellectshoouls"? That whole scene has been overrated since it was dominated by Fennimore Cooper, who was properly eviscerated by Mark Twain in "Fennimore Cooper's Literary Offenses." (Trust me, as one who was once forced to read Cooper, he really is the Worst American Writer Ever.)
Nuzzi is a scab